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Bluetoes
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 18:34    Post subject:

ok now.. as your 550 def i dont know why you have used a def gem in trinket. use a jc gem to get the bonus (stam gem)

and drop def enchants for stam ones.

im happy to accept you on trial but you must understand you will be our third choice on dps and if you want to tank in a competitive guild like this one you need to realise when you have 550 def maybe geting a stam/def gem isnt the brightest of idea's

you still have a fair bit to sort out but if your willing to make yet more changes im willing to help you fund them.

Mutiny x
Zangutss
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 18:21    Post subject:

yea i got this i change gyms and got the trinket iam 33k unbuffed thx guys for this i dnt mind to get more idea ^^
friedforfun
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 12:09    Post subject:

u should know that u gain 3% avoidence off 25 def
1% parry 1% dodge and 1% miss with and additional 2% hp on top of that i would always lean towards the stoneskin gargoyle
yes you only get 2% additional chance 4 rune strike 2 proc whereas with sowrdshattering u gain 4% chance 2 proc rune strike but that doesnt seem worth it in comparison
Zangutss
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 11:52    Post subject: hi

anyway i fixed the gyms as u said and and i got the trinket and to be honest i forget about the trinket coz i made jewel crafting new i just made it to 405 skill so i got it and i did everything and now iam 33k unbuffed and my dodge now 27.80% and parry 17.80% i guess i liked the trinket thing :>
Zangutss
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 9:30    Post subject: hi

k mate anyway i told u i can dps 2 so if u dnt me as a tank i can join as dps i can do 3k to 3.5 dps so i can join as main spec dps and if u need me tankin on boss's no proplem
Bluetoes
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 9:07    Post subject: Re: hi

Zangutss wrote:
hello guys first of all iam nt mad about the things u said i understand ur tryin to help but i will tell u for example why i didnt take [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] coz if i took it it will give 800 hp but dnt u think i would take [Runeforging: Rune of Swordshattering]
to get 4% more parry and thats smth big coz when u gear as tank almost ur gear have dodge so from this rune i gain 4% parry thats mean more avoid strikes coz the death knight he tank with 2 hand so he dnt have anything like block or smth we tank with dodge and parry
and i use this then i gain 26% dodge and 22% parry if i removed it it will be 18% and about the gems i will change them i told u in the app
that i will do anything for the guild as long as it will help the same guild so i can change everything if u want and about the spec i dnt see ur char if u can link the armory for him and i can change it and about the gem i will change them if u like also humm and about the trinket for jc if i change [Repelling Charge] i will nt be defense capped so i will go back to [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] but to be honest with u i still dnt understand wt is better for tanks for dk is it to gain more avoid things like to put 4% parry or stamina i was using [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] but since i saw i can change it for 4% parry i said we can try it and when i did that i test it on the recount on boss's and i saw iam taken less damge from any other tank was tankin with me on boss's but i told u its up to u if u wanna change everything u said i will and about the application i told u mate its just my first application in my life i do so iam nt good with these stuff sorry about the application ^^


Well, i dont know any tank thats JC that does not use the crab trinket. you can see people like skeleton jack still using it. this is why i suggested dropping trinket for crab and changing rune. you will have around 2k+ more hp, still be def capped and get 300dodge every minute for 10 seconds.

over 4% parry.

i dont know. i guess il wait for one of the tanks to reply.
Zangutss
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 8:13    Post subject: hi

hello guys first of all iam nt mad about the things u said i understand ur tryin to help but i will tell u for example why i didnt take [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] coz if i took it it will give 800 hp but dnt u think i would take [Runeforging: Rune of Swordshattering]
to get 4% more parry and thats smth big coz when u gear as tank almost ur gear have dodge so from this rune i gain 4% parry thats mean more avoid strikes coz the death knight he tank with 2 hand so he dnt have anything like block or smth we tank with dodge and parry
and i use this then i gain 26% dodge and 22% parry if i removed it it will be 18% and about the gems i will change them i told u in the app
that i will do anything for the guild as long as it will help the same guild so i can change everything if u want and about the spec i dnt see ur char if u can link the armory for him and i can change it and about the gem i will change them if u like also humm and about the trinket for jc if i change [Repelling Charge] i will nt be defense capped so i will go back to [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] but to be honest with u i still dnt understand wt is better for tanks for dk is it to gain more avoid things like to put 4% parry or stamina i was using [Runeforging: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle] but since i saw i can change it for 4% parry i said we can try it and when i did that i test it on the recount on boss's and i saw iam taken less damge from any other tank was tankin with me on boss's but i told u its up to u if u wanna change everything u said i will and about the application i told u mate its just my first application in my life i do so iam nt good with these stuff sorry about the application ^^
Bluetoes
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 6:15    Post subject:

ye, your spec is a bit wrong mate. you should take a look at my frost spec.

missing out of 25def (this is rating not 25 def that suffers from diminishing returns etc so its HUGE) from the rune is bad enough without missing the 2% hp. also is means you can drop that trinket for the JC crab trinket which is pretty much best in game.

it will give you ALOT more health.

not trying to show off or anything but my DK has more hp than you and im still in alot of crap gear and its an alt.

as you can see my trinket gives me 1280 hp as well as the 300 dodge for 10secs. i don't know why you wouldn't be using it

so.

1.Take a look at my frost spec and at the very leased change yours so it picks up imp frost pres.

2.change the parry gem. you need to satisfy the meta yes but personally i would gem only stam and to satisfy dodge/something gems.

3.change your rune or explain why you use it.

As I said to you yesterday, we take people we think we will get on with, not people with the gear. Also it makes you seem quite big headed when you just ask for an inv to one of our members while not wanting to make an app. Further more i did say we like to get people to make an application to see what they are like. i dont know if your english is limited and maybe this stopped you from answering things in more detail but we know very little about you from reading that.

Ok, we do need another tank as i don't really want to be taking my alt over my main into raids BUT i want you to do all the things i said then let us know on here.

I said yesterday to you that gear comes easy but class knowledge does not and its slightly worrying that you took that rune... even over maybe fallen crusader if you REALLY didn't want stoneskin as at leased this would get you extra threat also the spec worries me a bit, i don't see why you would not take +2% more damage mitigation and instead pick up more damage to targets that are almost dead.

But hey im no expert, if you think this is wrong let me know.
friedforfun
PostPosted: 2009/06/30 3:52    Post subject:

i am inclined to say yes to this one since more tanks is always good, i like most of your gems maybe swap the red Flashing Scarlet Ruby and the purple Defenders Twilight Opal to a Guardians Twilight Opal and although i am no expert on dk tanking runes isnt Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle favourable for the stam bonus?
Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldnt taking points out of conviction and putting them into imp frost presence for the 2% extra damage reduction be better than 2% crit?

i will leave the final decision up to mutiny.
Zangutss
PostPosted: 2009/06/29 21:35    Post subject: armory link

sorry forget to put the armory
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&n=Zanguts

thx ^^
friedforfun
PostPosted: 2009/06/29 21:28    Post subject: App: Zangutss

All questions marked with a "*" are the most important and therefore compulsory.


Name: Rami Basem
Age: 24
Gender: male
Location: lebanon

Ingame info
Main characters name: Zanguts
Class: Death knight
Talent Spec: Main spec Tank frost off spec blood
Are you willing to respec if needed for the guild: sure
Armory link:
Professions: jewel crafting and herb
Any other 80s: nop Death knight my main

Raid Info
Classic:
TBC:
WOTLK: done nax 10 25 and malygos 10 and 25 and ulduar 9 boss's on 10man and 4 boss's on 25 man

Raid addons(a screenshot of your raid interface is fine): iam using bartender deadly boss mode .. recount .. omen

What times do you normally play?
iam alwayes online
In a duel who would win, Chuck Norris v's The Entire World.?*
depends on chuck norris :p
Have you read our Guild Rules and do you accept them?
yes
Are you willing to put your ownin game needs behind the guild needs?
guild first coz the progress come with the guild so we all need same thing
Chicken or the egg?*
hummm which one came to life first egg or the chicken ^^
What can you offer to us?
i can offer mmm tank on the guild or dps both will help the guild
What do you expect from us?
to be friendly with each other :>
Sporks being as useful as they are, are rejected by many diners, discuss.*
no comment ..
Guildhistory on Aerie Peak: i just joined to guilds
Current Guild on Aerie Peak: guildless at the moment
Why did you leave your previous guild: its along story if u intersted i can tell u
later

Its a known fact that gingers cant be pirates but why is this?*
i have no idea u can tell me tho ^^
General Info
Have you any other applications outstanding with other guilds?
nop this is my first application ever and i guess iam bad with these stuff filling applecation :/
How good is your English, Written and Spoken?
both good
In a fight who would win. A. Tiger, B. Eagle ?*
tiger
Connection info(any disconnect/lag problems we should know about)?
everthing is fine
Why do you want to join us?
coz i saw u spamin for people to start 25 and i can see ur good guild
Where did you hear about us?
i just saw it on the spam thing about gettin people to the guild
Do you have any connection issues?
nop
Do you have issues?*
nop
Anything Else you would like to inform us to further your application?
dnt think so ..

Application Availability Info:
Sunday -> Always
Monday -> Always
Tuesday -> Always
Wednesday -> Always
Thursday -> Always
Friday -> Always
Saturday -> Always